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Thing · Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2002 11:12 pm Post subject: I want to get beos (duh)

I did already read the topic "Best BeOs"

I only have the developer edition 1.0 on cd... it is outdated and maybe theres a better version\type.

I heard something about "zeta" what is it ? is it free ?

A simple question... i want to get beos, of course the best

but theres one thing that i really need

FLOPPY BOOT! i dont want any boot loader or the install messing up with it!!! please, i really want to avoid this! i want floppy boot like qnx or linux, set the floppy boot in the setup, i just dont want the setup to change or mess up with boot options, i have something like 4 os's.
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jefro · Junior Scribe Joined: 02 Oct 2002 Posts: 56

The only choices are Dano/Bone and the various versions of PE/Pro. All the PE/developer/max editions are acutally the same only the drivers and patches make it somewhat better for users with newer hardware. I love my Dano but it is one of the few items that I don't own legally like.

Thing · Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 2:31 pm Post subject: I need more replays please

Is this what you are talking about ?http://www.markround.com/beos/unofficial.html

DONT FORGET!!! I NEED A BEOS THAT DOESNT CHANGE MY BOOT OPTIONS, I NEED FLOOPY BOOT!!! please confirm this, i want the best beos that can boot with a floppy AND THAT DOES NOT CHANGE THE BOOT OPTIONS EVEN IN THE SETUP

Please can anyone help me choosing the best beos.

Thanks

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theelf · Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 4:09 pm Post subject:

When installing BeOS it will not install bootman (Be bootloader) unless you choose to do so but, it will present you with that option. You can boot BeOS several ways: with bootman, boot from a floppy or a BeOS bootable CD, lilo if you have Linux installed or you can use one of several other bootloaders. Personally I like and use xosl.

Thing

The thing is that i dont want to use a boot loader

I will have:

Windows xp
Qnx
Beos
Linux

Windows xp boots up normaly, if i want to boot to qnx or linux i use the boot disk, that makes it simple

and i wont have trouble, thats why i want also to get a beos with floopy boot, when i installed the beosonline.de 1.0 i didnt get that option, or i didnt know how to do it...

Please dudes dont tell me that using a bootloader is simple bla bla bla, i just need to know wich beos i should get and how to boot it with a floopy

Manu thanks

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jefro · Junior Scribe Joined: 02 Oct 2002 Posts: 56

I didn't know beosonline Dev edition forced a bootman on you. I suggest that you get ranish partition manager and make one or two backups of the MBR and if it does get trashed then you can just go back. The bootdisk is good and if you make a bootable CD it really boots fast. In beos it should have asked your to make a backup of the MBR but I have not seen the new distros.

Thing · Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2002 2:56 am Post subject: No floopy boot ? :(

Dude, i dont want anything about booting to be changed!!! sorry... i know im being lame but im really bad with this boot things

Can i boot with the cd ? cool

anyway a floopy boot would be much better.

What beos should i get ?
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Thing · Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2002 5:01 am Post subject: :(

I still need help
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jefro · Junior Scribe Joined: 02 Oct 2002 Posts: 56

I can't say for sure but usually the MBR is the master boot region. The bios looks to a special area on media for instructions. If you want to BE SURE that nothing changes then you need to understand how to save what you have and understand how to replace it in case the worst happens. It would be foolish of me to tell you a for sure answer. Bad sh#t happens to the best of people sometimes and that is why I say make a back up or two just in case. There is no for sure answer.
As I said before I never heard that beos forced it's own bootloader (located in the MBR) on any system. I have only seen it ask and also ask if you wish to make a back up.
Sorry this is a long answer.

I agree that a bootfloppy is the way I boot into beos. I suggest that you get the Personal Edition from Bebits.com and install it. It has an install shield program that should help to undo it. Then you can always replace the image.be file with the Max or Dev file and run it on a virtial file system in a Fat formatted drive or Ext2 formatted drive.

Thing · Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2002 7:38 pm Post subject: I dont want to mess with mbr

Huh personal edition... that looks bad hehe, does it have option to make floopy boot ?

What about zeta... maybe i should wait to get that
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