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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2002 7:47 pm Post subject: New Refraction Beta Released. Use a Mirror!
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I'll keep the reading to a minimum, as some of you are anxious to get the latest
beta. Well, head on over to the Xentronics Download Page now, and get your
fix. It might be a few minutes, as the mirrors are making sure they have the file
first, before officially announcing the new Beta.. Smart idea, no?
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mariux
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2002 10:43 pm Post subject:
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hahaha, some beta....
crashes on first start nomatter what!
you have to remove the PatternAddon to get it working......
YNOP, just one question: "did you bother testing it before you released it?"
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Frans van Nispen
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2002 10:56 pm Post subject:
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YNOP did not even see the beta before I released it.
The pattern addon crashes 1 out of 50 times on my system. I know that this is not the way to go, but we had some lawyers in my backyard to sue us when we did not release a proof of name-change before 1 July 2002.
The pattern addon is the only floater that still needs to be removed from the package, just like we did with the brush and gradient addons.
We will start to release regular updates of this beta, so this would be helped quite soon.
Frans van Nispen,
Xentronix.
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mariux
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2002 11:05 pm Post subject: ok:-)
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ok, i understand, except for that it is almost very good:-D
right clicking in the open area in the layers floater.....
Inferno, sorry refraction crashes
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segment violation occurred
InfernoLayer::IsHidden(void) const:
IsHidden__C12InfernoLayer:
+0006 80057b62: * 20408a movb 0x00000020(%eax), %al
w>Layers:sc
frame retaddr
fd25eb2c eb121d7f LayerListView::BuildMenu(BMenu *, long) + 000001cf
fd25ebc8 eb122ba2 LayerListView::MouseDown(BPoint) + 00000292
fd25ec10 ec251d8e BWindow::do_mouse_down(BMessage *, BView *) + 00000106
fd25ec44 ec253ec8 BWindow::DispatchMessage(BMessage *, BHandler *) + 000002a8
fd25ecac ec252e5e BWindow::task_looper(void) + 000003d2
fd25ed28 ec19ad86 BLooper::_task0_(void *) + 00000036
fd25ed3c ec06c50d thread_start + 00000039
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 3:18 am Post subject: I'm lucky I guess...
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So far, it starts every time for me. Even better is the updated Wacom driver actually works for my Graphire 2 pad
Still playing around to see what I can actually do with it. It won't open the TIF files from my digital camera but it opens all the jpegs. That's a good start...
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 7:56 am Post subject: PatternAddon
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Frans has fixed the PatternAddon module, and it's a simple drop and replace for that.
Grab the 27k file from: https://beosjournal.org/xentronix/PatternAddon.zip
We'll be watching Refraction closely in the next few weeks, as we contemplate doing a full review for our loyal readership...
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 9:45 am Post subject: hmmm
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Would it be possible to generally speed up the filters? Or if not, atleast make it so that if you "proof" a filter, and then click OK, it wont be rendered again......
Except for that its great...
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 9:52 am Post subject: no good
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The new PatternAddon was no good, it still crashes on startup...
P3 800mhz (under big load atm.) 512mb ram and a compaq wheelmouse
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segment violation occurred
BBitmap::get_server_token(void) const:
get_server_token__C7BBitmap:
+0006 ec1bd57a: * 2c428b movl 0x0000002c(%edx), %eax
Refraction:sc
frame retaddr
fcffbb34 ec24ad2e BView::DrawBitmap(BBitmap const *, BRect) + 0000008e
fcffbb60 ead921a5 PatternView::AddPatterns(void) + 00000559
fcffc11c ead90e60 PatternWindow::PatternWindow(BMessage *, InfernoCommon *) + 00000250
fcffc168 ead9178c instantiate_addon + 0000002c
fcffc18c 80047c68 InfernoPool::AddFloater(BEntry) + 0000028c
fcffc464 8004558f InfernoPool::LoadFloaters(void) + 0000011b
fcffc674 8004430c InfernoPool::Init(void) + 00000280
fcffc694 8003fff7 Inferno::Inferno(void) + 00000257
fcffc6d4 8003fd0b main + 0000002b
fcffc6f4 8003fbc5 _start + 00000061
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 2:33 pm Post subject: Startup crash and filter speed
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The crash on the patternAddo is strange, as it does not crash on all systems and it only uses the plain BeOS API. I will work tis out in the next few days with the help of Bruno A. as he has a system where it crashes and one that works ok.
About the filters:
All our filters use our BAC (Bitmap Access Class) that makes sure they all are able to work on just the selected part and that you are enabled to filter just a single color channel.
If you disable Red in the layerWindow Channels, it will not be touched by a filter.
We are continuously trying to improve the speed of our BAC, but some routines are still in development and not 100% optimized because of that.
Also I spend a lot of time making the filters as multi-threaded as possible.
So basically the filters will be speed up, yes.
Are there particulat filters to whom you refere ?
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 11:13 pm Post subject: hmmm
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there are probably specific once, but i dont remember which once:-D
btw, i had two layers.
the background one was blue
the other once was transparent, and had the same color on the text, only it was in rendermode:"blended"
then i apply Motion blur to the textlayer, and suddenly it is white and non transparent.......
didnt look good:-)
believe that it shouldnt be that way....
on closer look it seems like all motion blurs are rendered with a white background........should be fixed
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