[Technix]

title says it all.
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[moooooooo]

there was some talk initially on the OpenBeOS mailing list about post OBOS R1 coolness.

One of them was that when hardware OpenGL is implemented, it should/could extend to all OBOS GUI objects....... so if you can imagine something like a "normal" BeOS window....it would be rendered by the OpenGL engine.

now that would be nice!!!

Technix, do you mean a static 3D desktop?

How about this.... remember that rotating cube demo that was in BeOS R4 ? what if the desktop was the inside of that cube and you could navigate whatever pane you wanted to be the front and the sides and top and bottom would follow....hmmm......yumm.

[JMac]

With the render for the next version of Enlightenment being EVAS, Linux will soon include OpenGL hardware acceleration for basic window operations.

Apple has Quartz Extreme in Jaguar for doing the same thing.

Microsoft are rolling DirectX 9 rendering technology into the core of Longhorn.

The trend is there, and the hardware will be too. The only question hanging over an implementation for OBOS will be, which hardware manufacturers will give up enough info on their hardware to allow the OBOS programmers to produce drivers?

[moooooooo]

good info in your post there.

my only hope is that the manufacturers release the info to the Linux community so that the rest of us (of course BeOS/OBOS) and i guess that includes *BSD, PC Solaris, QNX and co can benefit.

if they release Linux binaries only, which is understandable from an business point of view, then we might need our Russian BeOS friends or other suitably talented BeOS/OBOS people to reverse engineer them. But this is fraught with danger from a stability point of view.
cheers
peter

[JMac]

Um I also forgot just one extra thing. OpenGL/Mesa will have to be implemented in OBOS first, before anything else can happen. That's still some ways off, as the windowing system still isn't finished (although it's come a remarkably long way).
It's most certainly something for Glass Elevator rather than OBOS.

[DaaT]

Mesa is being ported as we speak, by Philippe (sorry, not sure of the last name so i prefer not to even try). You can reach him over at BeShare (he uses the nick... Philippe *gasp*)

DaaT
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[datatec]

I believe the idea of having hw accelerated ogl/mesa draw the desktop
is a good idea, similar to the picasso gl idea be had. However at the first stages, and especially for R1 this should be optional.
Its cool and I think from a programming sense good but we don't want to kill the userbase due to hardware.

[JMac]

OpenGL desktop rendering will not appear in R1 of OBOS. It wasn't in Be R5, so it won't make the first release. There's no point in implementing it if there's no 3D drivers for modern cards, and at the moment there is none worth talking about.

[Esperantolo]

Salvete Omnes

The idea of a 3d desktop is a pretty sweet one , though if it compromises speed and functionality for the sake of a fancy interface (This doesn't apply to the lucky buggers who have ultra-fast computers ), then its a fairly bad concept .

Esperantolo
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